...5000 messages into the creation of the list...97.2% bios... I am a sysadmin at Ziff Information Services, an outsourcing company that hosts systems and computing resources for both internal and external (non-Ziff internal) clients who use our systems worldwide. Yes, we are one in the bunch of Ziff-Davis Publishing companies. As a high-visibility site, we have to deal with A LOT of break- in attempts on a daily basis. Although we do have a group of five that focuses on security issues, I am the designated worrier for the group (you know, the one with the ulcers & no liver; the one that keeps logging on all throughout the night to make sure all systems are alive and ticking...and all that good stuff as a result of all the worrying over break-in at - tempts and having to deal with site administrators that could not care less about security). Sigh... So, security issues are right up there in my list of priorities. While I am not always able to implement everything I wish I could implement, I do keep up-to-date on security practices and utilities. I can then use this information to make business decisions on what is worthwhile implementing and what is not. Sean. +--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Sean Gonzalez - sean@zis.ziff.com | ZIS Postmaster & Webmaster | +--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Ten Presidents Landing | Ziff-Davis Publishing WWW server | | Medford, MA 02155 | http://www.ziff.com | | 617.393.3252 | | +--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ L.A.T.R.: HI Rh+W B 02 Y L W- C++ I+++ T+ A+ E H+ S++ V++ F Q++ P B++ PA++ PL-- PATCHOULI: DM B+Wo C 09 X L++ W++ C-- I+++ T++/-- A--- E+++ H S+ V F- Q+++ \ P- B-- PA PL--