Justin Lister, Your Most Esteemed Excellency, yesterday, while I was throwing rocks at seagulls in Baltimore harbor, I heard a rumor that you have voiced opinions that there are some areas that present intrusion detection systems have not fully addressed, particularly policy issues and integration with system management. /British Bulls..t On There are a couple of British (and therefore best) TV programs, "Connections" and "Connections II", making the international rounds. In one of them, the commentator points out that in every age there has been "the conventional wisdom", "the accepted view" and that most of the time it was totally wrong. /British Bulls..t Off While I do not mean to suggest that anything is totally wrong, I do agree with you completely. In many of the areas that I work in, there are plenty of people like myself who came in as young hot shots and are now counting off the years to retirement, and there is a tendency to say "have you ever tried it?" or "oh, we tried that and it didn't work" or "you shouldn't even think about trying that!" It is also not uncommon for a young person to come along who lacks the vast body of experience and more importantly, who lacks the biases that have accumulated over the years, and to try something (because he doesn't know any better) and find that it works beautifully. I think that many of us would benefit from a discussion of new ideas. Would you care to post your ideas about areas of intrusion detection that have not been adequately addressed, on this list, for discussion? By the time I retire, I will actually be able to hit the damn seagulls. Hog Farmer Tropical Hog Improvement Programme British Bulls..t Corporation (Honorary Diploma)