According to Pamela Pledger > I'll the ones most talked about on Firewalls@greatcircle.com > ( same majordomo setup ). > tcp_wrappers, > TIS ( Trusted Information Systems ) > Checkpoint Also dont forget the KarlBridge/KarlBrouter. The commercial version will have some exciting new detection systems. Regards Steve -- ___ |_ ___ ___ Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road (___ | (___) \ / (___) Belsize Park ___) | (___ \/ (___ London NW3 4LU [MIME OK] tel +44-(0)171 483 1169 steve@gbnet.{com,org,net} home (or steve@tel.net) GSM 0802 444500 steve@marvin.demon.co.uk Demon Internet Dial-up data 2400 449500 WWW http://www.demon.co.uk/subscribers/m/marvin/ 9600 449501 UNIX/Networking Consulting steve@NetTek.co.uk fax 449502