For those wishing more info on ITA try the following URL; URL: http://www.axent.com/axent/products/products.html Justin, Did you ever get around to setting up a web page for IDS? A vendor page that collects all the links to existing products (commercial, shareware, freeware, public domain, research, etc.) would be great. [ Still haven't sorry - I will try to see what I can do, keep on me about it ] I know I keep posting products when I find them and the IDS archive has them, but they're spread all throughout. A nice web page that accumulated them in one place would really be nice. (hint, hint,...) Jim Truitt