On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Keith Bastin wrote: > One thing is certain, NT will never be secure from a default installation > and from my impression was never intended to be... I think microsoft's > claims that NT is C2 certified is, in large part, a disservice as it leads > many inexperienced network managers to a false sense of security and at the > same time makes the hacker's much more interested in defeating it's so > called security... Absolutely. NT's "C2 Certification" is all about buzzwords and hype, offering minimal assurance of /real/ security. Only portions of the operating system are C2 certified. The networking, for example, is not certified. All of our real threats are network based these days.. NT's certifications are vaporware marketing hype. no-op execution for ppl looking for real security. read a bit more about it here: http://www.netsys.com/firewalls/firewalls-9510/0270.html