I've joined the list because I'm the one who is stuck with security duty here... a thankless task :-) We're moving from the ostrich approach, "If you don't see any intruders, there aren't any." The move is slow, but I think that this list will help. Regards, -- Mike Murphy mrm@Optigfx.COM ucsd!optigfx!mrm +1 619 625 3000 x 265 ALPHAREL 9339 Carroll Park Drive San Diego, CA 92121 The opinions expressed above are mine and not those of my employer.