"*Hobbit*" wrote: > > Passing a test shows that you can memorize things, not that you can think. > That's a false generalisation. Tests certainly exist at both ends of the spectrum and need to be judged on an individual basis, wide sweeping claims just don't cut it. I'm not too familiar with the Novell CNE exams, but those I know that are have previously assured me that passing involves paying lots of money to get solution books which are a superset of exam questions -- `Pay your dough and memorise in the corner'. I'm not too sure I'm happy about the use of `engineer' in a context like that (not that I want to get into a debate about the abuse of the engineer title!). The benefit of a *good* assessment [not `test'] is that a mimimum level of competency is established. In the end, usually, the market decides which tests and levels of competency are `bogus' and chooses to ignore them. > Real security engineering requires thought. s/security // Matthew. -- Matthew Gream [Stud IEAust] <M.Gream@uts.edu.au> (02) 821-2043 (sw/hw engineer)