Re: SATAN's Footprint?

MICHAEL S. HINES (MSHINES@freh-02.adpc.purdue.edu)
Tue, 28 Mar 1995 07:49:37 EST

> > Anyone got hold of SATAN yet?
> 
> Yes, beta testers. No, others not yet. Yes, I *am* holding my breath 
> waiting :-)

I'm getting a demo from a beta tester tomorrow... Dan Farmer's former 
major professor, no less.  

Any particular questions you want me to ask?

> > Anyone know what to expect if your site is being probed
> > by SATAN?

I was told that your logs will contain much evidence of the presence 
of a SATAN scan.   It's not a secret when it arrives...   since this 
come from a white hat (as opposed to a black hat) there was no intent 
to be secretive about the scan - since its supposed to be a sysadmin 
tool.    It also might discourage the black hats from playing with 
it...since it is an obtrusive tool.   

> > Apart from the expected port scanning, sendmail, telnet,
> > tftp, finger, rpc setup, r-commands, yp, nfs and dns being
> > rattled is there anything else that one should look
> > out for?

It checks binary versions also...to see if you've corrected sendmail,
NFS, login, et al and most of the CERT advisories to see if you've
taken corrective measures.   

> This is a very interesting idea. Having SATAN (and ISS and Tiger et al) 
> having some kind of signature built it. Thus enabling a sysadm knowing 
> what tools are used to attack.

As I said before, this is a sysadmin tool, so the sysadmin should 
know if it was used by someone else.  Sysadmins should at least be 
even with hackers, if not one step ahead!   Why shouldn't a sysadmin 
run crack on his/her passwd file?  Better that he finds the problems 
that some unknown person, right?  

Prevention is even one level better than detection....  

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