If you must respond to his introduction, then I must respond to your flame. Give the guy a little respect, at least he isn't still hacking (or so he says.) If you don't like the fact that he hacked then tell him. I, personally, do not care to hear your prejudicial rhetoric. I also don't think you realize how many people really ARE former hackers. In my experience, the best sysadmins are former hackers. Do us all a favor and don't judge people after a two paragraph introduction. Also, I seem to remember the mention of a "no flaming" rule. What ever happened to that? [ I can't remember the rule, though my memory my be experiencing parity errors - RuF ] ~Joce M. Armstrong |=====================================| |On AOL: Egeria13@aol.com | |On MCSNet: marijean@mcs.net | |=====================================|