( This is a bit off topic, but please wax tolerant. ) Previously, I observed : "( I haven't had much faith in magnetic cards since I watched a BART card get copied by two read/write heads, intervening circuitry, and a 9-volt battery. [ BART == Bay Area Rapid Transit ] )" Gee, willickers. I suppose I just succinctly explained how to replicate BART ( and other ) cards. (-: Needed to be said, though. You don't need a high school degree to do this sort of trick. -=8=- I suppose I should point out that when you replicate a specific card, you replicate *all* of the data on it. Such data is not just financial, but also relates to space and time, IE, when did you buy it, and where. It is a virtual certainty that any such strip contains a day/time/locale stamp. Replicating such a stamp is certain to set off auditing alarms when you use the same day/time/locale-stamped card, in two different locations, at two different times, with two divergent histories .. and is a good way to get yourself on television, being indicted. ... There are better ways, no ? (-: ( As I pointed out to the person who demonstrated this scheme. As you can imagine, it did not penetrate, and they ended up on the evening news in quite the wrong way. < sigh > ) 'Nuff sed. |-: -- richard Law : The science of assigning responsibility. Politics : The art of _distributing_ responsibility. richard childers san francisco, california pascal@netcom.com